They say, Lviv is Ukraine’s cultural capital. What do you think about it?
I think that people are getting what they deserve.
They also say that Lviv is developing now. Did something change? Parties got better and, perhaps, not as rundown?
Parties? Hmm... They sometimes get so boring that I don’t even know what to say. Overall, something might have changed, but to be honest, I rarely take interest. I’m getting old, you know.
Do you only play or organize parties as well?
I was the ideologist and co-organizer of a series of parties Алґоритм (Algorithm), although my responsibility was to create the design. We threw three or four events, had ups and downs. It is difficult to play at the event you’re organizing.
I also heard of Lviv club called Underground. Why did it close?
Apparently, it was too underground for this city.
So, does anything happen right now?
There are parties at Arsenal, can’t say that I witnessed any remarkable thinking behind those. Perhaps, I just don’t follow up. Or maybe I’m just a Galician techno snob.
What kind of techno do Galician techno snobs listen to?
Currently, I feel like listening to the noise of the gas meter... This is not a joke: I enjoy listening to ambient sounds and their combinations more and more. Well, to be precise, I don’t always like them, but rather pay attention to them and their textures, you know.
I would say that this “music” is more like for producers to listen to.
Sorry, didn’t get that.
DJs aren’t likely to play recordings of environmental noises.
Yes, and the noises are beautiful indeed. However, if we take a look from a broader perspective, outside the framework of “techno discotheques” at their best, why not? It all depends on “how”, “when”, and “what for”. On the other hand, spontaneity is important too.
Tell us about Lviv musicians. Are there any interesting names?
Everyone is kind of cool. The Хатнєграння (Houseplaying) project, techno DJ and producer Svarog, drum’n’bass duo Derrick & Tonica. There are also G.F.N. (Galician Funky Noise) guys who are so incredibly underground and won’t ever get out of there. I’m not even sure if they don’t get offended by the fact that I mention them – that’s how much underground they are. There are also nice guys from Zavtra.Fm who are mostly about house music.
Are these new collectives and young musicians?
Young at heart.
In that case, let’s talk about history. Galicia gave us a lot of good rock musicians. What about electronic music?
Sure, everything has been blooming all over the place in the ’90s, and there were DJs who played in many different genres. I remember radio programs such as Extreme Chart or Neopost with DJ Bobrovski, I grew up listening to them. Later, there was a program called Liver Efir (Liver Air) on Initiative radio, there was always a complete mess of styles, themes and programs, which was fascinating and sometimes confusing, but it was the most honest and real radio show. Thank you for recovering the memories, it feels like I’ve forgotten everything.
Why did all this die out?
I’m not sure. Maybe some spark disappeared and, perhaps, people changed interests. No luck.
What about your mix? It balances on the verge of house and techno, as if recreating an argument between them.
Well, let’s start with the fact that I’m not a techno DJ. I don’t have a single Tresor record.
Then what is your music?
I like various music. Music that has many connotations and, as you’ve noted correctly, has a certain controversy. However, that’s not always in terms of style, rather in terms of complexity of the track’s mood; the mood itself may be controversial and not specific. It is cool when a simple track with no words can raise many questions, even though my mix is funkier than what I’m speaking about. I love when there is a subtext, barely perceptible irony or self-irony. The ability to become an observer through music is priceless.
Postmodernism of some sort?
In a way, but I’m afraid of this word.
Why Lawrin? Is it your surname?
Lavrin is my name.
Nice one. What are you thinking about while playing?
Depends on what I’m playing.
What if it’s techno?
Well, techno does vary. It may even become a bit suffocating if I get paranoid. It happens not only when I play, though. If I listen to a decent mix of this kind, it can have the same effect.
Suffocating, as if you’re in a ritual of self-destruction?
Wow, you are harsh! (laughing) Yes, existential shit happens.
How do you feel about the fact that most people don’t go to parties for music?
Why rob oneself? I don’t get it.